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Talking about nudity and shame I think that realistically, nudity and/or presenting oneself nude and/or lewdly should not have any shame associated with it from a societal perspective. Our bodies, shells, chassis, are the most natural things on this planet. No one should shame you for showing your most natural qualities and features of the shell you happen to possess. That is just dumb, stupid, regressive and overall not a productive concept.

Individual shame, however, is a whole different thing. If you in particular feel ashamed about your physical form, then that is an absolutely valid emotion, and not at all part of what I am trying to express here. You are always valid, and no one has a right to claim otherwise, ever.
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Sindastra autism butterflyLesbian 🌈🍀 @sin@misskey.sindastra.net
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Our bodies, shells, chassis, are the most natural things on this planet.
I would have said that humans are among the least natural things on this planet.

Not inherently, mind you, but what we've all become as a society. We don't live lives that fit our nature.
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Oh, and, we're full of plastic.
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And everything we (figuratively) touch is full of plastic.
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But ok, let's talk about just the body itself. We modify it constantly. We extend our lives by means of medication and surgery. We spit death in the face for as long as is possible before we ultimately decay.
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If we really were all natural, most of us would be dead for one reason or another. A simple bacterial infection without antibiotic intervention.
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Anyway, uh, hm.

But yes we should not be ashamed of nudity in general.
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@sin Yeah, well, we humans are just nature, but what we create through the idioms a lot of us live by as a whole is not, largely. But that is a whole different can of worms involving greed and economic theory, inequality, all of these diseased factors. But the individual in it's physical form? It just is. Even modifying your looks and form is some form of individualism and self-expression when seen in a cosmetic sense.

And I would also disagree with the fact that medicine is unnatural. Sure, we have advanced it a lot, but we are not the only species to tend to wounds or illnesses with the help of external ingredients
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@star Perhaps I should start by saying that my previous post was not all that serious.

On a more serious note: I think it's actually difficult to draw a reasonable line on the question of "what is natural".

One could argue that everything contained in our universe, is by definition, natural.

It's not my place to try to define things here or to draw lines.
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@sin Ah okay :3 sorry for misunderstanding!

The question of whether anything has any non-objective property is not easy to answer. But you can approximate an answer by crafting a moral compass of values, axioms, and other things you believe to be true and good, and then using it to navigate the world
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