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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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Considering placing an order for a Framework Laptop 13 Pro
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star please do not fall into the same trap that literally all of my friends that own a framework did.

The way we like to describe it, the reason framework is repairable is because things will be breaking a lot randomly for absolutely no reason while running hot as shit.

Sure, this is a laptop that isn't out yet, but this has been pretty consistent with their past releases. Disregarding the fact, of course, that they fund an actual racist, while not giving a penny to projects that are literally on their website, like Krita.
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star and before you say it, I'm not bringing up the racism because all other companies are perfect. I'm bringing it up because framework positions themselves as an morally better alternative*, while quadrupling down on supporting this racist.

* after all, they are a big proponent of the right to repair movement, which is fundamentally about the morals of not allowing you to own and repair your devices.
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star

But regardless of all that, you're paying a pretty hefty price tag for a device that continues to have design defects and common issues that aren't fixed with later revisions. Like the overheating problems, like the terrible fan curves, like the fact that things constantly break from no reason.
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@alexia Well, no, I'd be paying for a device which, as you said, "isn't out yet", and is supposed to be a major redesign fixing the flaws that the 13 had, not to speak of the god awful 12
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star fair but because the device isn't out yet, you also can't know if they've actually fixed those issues.

For all we know, they could be pulling a Volkswagen testing moment
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@alexia Yes but then again what's the alternative
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star I mean if your is just modularity, MNT is there for you, or dell which IIRC also has a framework-esque modular device

what I am questioning though is whether you...
need a modular laptop in the first place. I mean yes it has utility but...is it enough utility to justify the price tag over just getting another high-end laptop that has an ok repairability score? Would a device with good I/O not be enough?
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@alexia Having the ability to upgrade my laptop in 5 years sounds pretty sweet, I am not going to lie. The Dell one I don't trust. Who knows how long they are keeping that around for. It's also just as expensive, if not more so
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star I mean, those upgrades are also locked-in to Framework's ecosystem, so if you buy in, you'll put a huge switching cost on yourself should you ever decide that the device wasn't actually for you, because now a motherboard upgrade that would've been idk, 700€ would become a whole laptop upgrade which will (judging from what ur willing to spend) more like 1500-2000€
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@alexia Isn't there 3rd party mainboards already, like the ARM one from MetaComputing?
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Alexia makko_bnuuy @alexia@starlightnet.work
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@star I think they were made in collaboration with FW? but I'm not 100% sure from memory alone.
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