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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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Considering placing an order for a Framework Laptop 13 Pro
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star but it's framework qwq
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@commanderred which company isn't evil
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star true, but also like I have a fw 13 and with all the issues I had with their firmware and their support team (which basically is only able to say "make screenshot of the motherboard" and "send the whole unit in, we'll wipe it and see if it works then")

And yea that all makes me very much not recommend it. Like I use my MacBook air m2 way more often than the framework
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aura @aura@gts.foxsnuggl.es
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@star @commanderred tbh the reason i wouldn't buy framework again is that i put up with subpar hardware and value because repairability is a good mission and then they kinda added "fascism is just like someone's opinion" to their mission

but if the value actually checks out for you, shrug
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@aura @commanderred yes. but read fed.amazonawaws.com/notes/amwj270fw84c3h60
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star @aura I mean for me it's not just about repairability but also Software Support. I don't like needing to implement the weirdest fixes for stuff. Might be worth looking in the newer Lenovo's again, afaik ifixit gave them a 10/10. Also ig what might be a factor is that framework actively has that problem, and at least in ur toot u used past tense a lot.

(Also sorry if that is a lot like I just wanna say like what my experience with it was but yea meow 🥺)
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star @aura like, they have a bug where the USB A module sometimes doesn't work in USB 3.2 slots. I was checking and it definitely is a firmware problem as new hardware didn't fix it. But still they insisted on me sending my stuff in that I needed for work back then instead of forwarding it to firmware engineers
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@commanderred @aura well, i have a thinkpad t14s gen 6, the newest gen with the amd processors (which are very nice), and i have NEVER gotten this thing to sleep or wake from sleep reliably. i have had it for a year, tried two different distros, a myriad of weird tweaks and fixes, and it still just. won't. wake.

it's terrible and makes this thing really annoying to useeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star @aura did you read the archwiki tho
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aura @aura@gts.foxsnuggl.es
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@star @commanderred oh god, at least it's not just my weird ass gpd win max 2
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aura @aura@gts.foxsnuggl.es
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@star @commanderred oh, i'm very aware.

the difference is that if you bought early framework hardware, you got a bad deal, made up for by "underdog going for repairability narrative", it was a bit more like backing a kickstarter than buying a laptop for value, so of course everyone who did this got rightfully pissed when framework take a shitty moral stance for no good reason (like, they're just being shitty enlightened centrists, it's not even money motivated, it'd be easier if it was)
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@aura @star granted, back then Lenovo had just shitty products. HP and dell is stuff u don't wanna buy anyways. And there wasn't really anything left x86_64 wise
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flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking made-with-estrogen verifiedlesbian @star@amazonawaws.com
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@commanderred @aura i mean, lenovo still has shitty products; their t14s lineup is absolutely hilarious in terms of build quality. the keyboard is nice, tho
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zoe blahaj -> GPN 2145 ☎️ @commanderred@chaos.social
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@star @aura not sure if that is the new one with the 10/10 score. But yea. I had one Lenovo ThinkBook once and it was horrible
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