:celeste_hearts_lesbian::celeste_hearts_trans::celeste_hearts_demisexual: flori_ava_star:~:cursor_blinking: (@star)

if you have a hammer and sickle in your bio you suck

poser anti-authoritarian shit, you are absolutely pro-imperialism as soon as it won't lose you any woke points

also if you are an admin or mod you should moderate this shit out of your users or you suck too

@mira @Reni Don't you think that it might just be the case that a lot of these people genuinely have no idea about the full context of that symbol and that a lot of them would likely be willing to take it out of their bio if one told them nicely but firmly

@star @Reni now say this about someone with a swastika in their bio and watch me get real nice

@star @Reni "please be nicer to the genocidal empire faaaaaaans pleeeease"

@star the reason that doesn't work is because there is always some jackass who shows up and starts making excuses for them, for example you

@star maybe instead of telling me to be nicer to the people who are openly admiring the empire that colonized my country you should be the one who explains it to them nicely and firmly that they shouldn't do this?

come back and tell me to be nicer once you do that?

@mira Yeah sure I'll do that /gen
I've told people in the past about why this is problematic and I'll do it in the future as well, as long as I have the energy for it of course

You seem very agitated, which is fair since it seems this topic is quite close to you, I just want to re-iterate that I mean no harm

@star you mean no harm yet you try to westsplain to me why i should coddle tankies? nah

@mira no, you shouldn't coddle tankies
fuck tankies. their ideology is an abomination of dogshit imperialist doctrines which they try to disguise as necessary or even good

the point was rather that I doubt that everyone with a hammer/sickle Unicode thing in their bio is a tankie, or even knows much history at all I guess

@star again, westerners being ignorant is not my problem

@mira true the solution to ignorance is obviously not education but more aggressive infighting and demonstrating a complete lack of nuance, especially targeting individuals with the least amount of resources to spend on informing oneself

@star i don't owe you an education about how i was colonized fuck you

@mira me???? not once have I spoken about this from my own perspective

my position aligns with yours in that the ussr was authoritarian, imperialist and caused unimaginable suffering during its existence

I don't need benefit of the doubt, I am not talking about myself, and I am not friends with or interacting positively with anyone who would firmly hold a different opinion

The only real thing I was trying to say is that WHILE I AGREE that representing the ussr through using its symbolism is dumb and harmful and bad, I am not sure that everyone using this symbol is aware of it and could likely easily be convinced to the facts which align with our opinion on the matter

and you say that ignorance is not your problem and that you don't owe anyone education. And that's totally fair, I am not trying to tell you how to use your free time, other than that it would probably better be spent with literally anything different than having a probably emotionally exhausting conversation with someone who doesn't even disagree with you (this is a PERFECT template for you to block me)

anyways, I apologize for getting emotional about this towards you and idk whether we understand each other or what the other person is trying to say at all, but tldr death to the tankie ideology and I wish everyone in it that they at some point in their life realize how much hurt they've done and that they're devastated about it. and that they'll change

@star you say you agree with me and are an anarchist and against tankies yet you came here under my post to tone police me about my anti-imperialism... curious

@mira i say i agree with you because i agree with you. i'm not being facetious or pretending to hold a position i do not. what good would that even do

it's your best right to have a disdain for anyone using that symbol, and to block them because you hate seeing it. the only part i disagree with is extreme generalization and oversimplification, especially together with a call to action. that's what the original response was supposed to mean anyway

@star there was no call to action, i just said ussr apologists suck?

sorry if i can't see the nuance between "this person is purposefully ignoring how bad the ussr was and is using its symbols proudly" and "this person likes the ussr", must be because its not common knowledge or something, gotta be an enlightened westerner to understand it

@mira "if you are X do Y or Z" is most definitely a call to action