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derf @derf@social.skyshaper.org

5mo

Enbies and Gentlequeers, may we present to you: the USB-C killer five thousand.

No power delivery, no negotiation, just 12V straight to VBUS

You surely wouldn't regret having a USB-C plug with 12V on VBUS around.

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Pavel Machek @pavel@social.kernel.org

5mo

@derf Can you actually do any USB killing with it? They should not be doing this, but any USB device should probably expect 20V on the input these days... and my guess is that many devices will tolerate 12V just ok.

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✧✦Catherine✦✧ @whitequark@treehouse.systems

5mo

@pavel @derf anything that was a microusb design, now with a type-c port, will not survive it. plenty of them

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Pavel Machek @pavel@social.kernel.org

5mo

@whitequark @derf Why do you believe it will not survive 12V?

I guess you should not try, because it may be out of spec for the devices, but old Nokia phones were designed for 5V charging, but were actually designed to survive 15V IIRC according to service manuals.

I'd strongly suggest anything USB to survive 20V these days, and may guess is that a lot of hardware would actually survive.

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✧✦Catherine✦✧ @whitequark@treehouse.systems

5mo

@pavel @derf because I design electronics and know how it's put together? it's pretty normal to use components with absolute max rating of 6-7 V if you're not using USB-PD explicitly. it adds cost for very little gain, so it is generally not done

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@whitequark @pavel @derf hhhow many volts,

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