chaos, c3d2 (dresden chaos hackerspace), smoking(paraphrased) "hey perhaps we could ban smoking in this space" "well there's enough rooms where smoking isn't permitted so i don't see the problem"
i can see that, if this is to change, it'll need a LOT of effort...
chaos, c3d2 (dresden chaos hackerspace), smoking@Quz Trying to provoke change on your own is likely to lead to burnout and other bad things. Together, though? Well, I can't promise anything, but I think it's worth a shot!
I am genuinly tempted, main issue is that I already have two big social project I barely keep running.
So taking on a big project like helping make a whole orga more excellent to itself is currently not in the cards for me, also there is a person in the space I feel deeply uncomfortable with. (Not their fault, just a strong dislike from my end)