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Miya Ironami 🌸 @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
1y
non-con drugging, petplay Need someone to put something in my mouth, hand me a glass of water, and say "good pets swallow pills without asking questions~" jfkkdjdkdkfkkfk neofox_pleading
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celeste_hearts_lesbianceleste_hearts_transceleste_hearts_demisexual flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking @star@amazonawaws.com
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @iro_miya @la YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH ME ME ME ME I NEED THIS I NEED THIS I NEED THIS
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non-con drugging, petplay @star @iro_miya how did I end up tagged in this?

Is this a request
neocat_aww? /j
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celeste_hearts_lesbianceleste_hearts_transceleste_hearts_demisexual flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking @star@amazonawaws.com
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @la @iro_miya
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11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @star @iro_miya I mean, I could....

(probably could only get some boring ass medicine, not anything serious though lol) (also, drugging is fun in theory, but I am too uninformed of the risks and consent implications to do that with someone)
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celeste_hearts_lesbianceleste_hearts_transceleste_hearts_demisexual flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking @star@amazonawaws.com
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @la @iro_miya well you would only ever do that with someone who you have talked to about this, and where you have clarified all the surrounding factors like "please do this but do not do this", the risks, etc. beforehand

that's the first "c" of "cnc":
consensual non-consent
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non-con drugging, petplay @star @iro_miya obviously. But there are aspects of drugging in CNC that interfere with methods of establishing and maintaining consent like FRIES (fries.lilahexe.top).

It's a similar problem as somnophilia. An awake person can consent to sex, and also think they'll be fine with having it during sleep, but in the moment they won't be able to retract that consent. Same (potentially) with drugs.

And idk how to properly deal with that.
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Miya Ironami 🌸 @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @star @la in my opinion, this is something you can't really do much about and a risk that you and your partner needs to be aware of. Dub con carries the risk that they might not like the experience, and be unable to retract consent. This should not be understated, it's very serious, and your partner needs to decide that the pleasure they believe they could get from the experience outweighs this risk.

You should do this kind of dub con stuff with someone you're really familiar with and trust, because this requires a lot of trust, and you would want to be sure that this trust will not be shattered of it goes wrong. Familiarity may also allow you to spot signs that your partner might not be enjoying the experience, although this is not a fail-safe, but it could help.

In did once drug my partner's coffee, I took the following precautions, among others:
- I did this a day after my partner had consented to it. It should still be fresh in their memory. He had also repeatedly expressed this wish in the past, so I knew it was a consistent thing.
- I asked about his plans for the day and insistently made sure that he had nothing planned. This also served as a hint that I would drug the coffee, which he did catch on. So actually he slightly saw it coming but wasn't sure. Still, you can never be 100% sure someone will pick up a hint.
- I am very familiar with the drug and they have had it before. It's a short-acting drug that shouldn't leave them intoxicated for more than 3 hours. It was also lab-tested.
- There were lots of other folks in the house who could watch over him.
- And like I said, this is someone I've known for a long time, we're familiar with each other and trust one another.

But yeah, no matter how many precautions you take, you are bypassing safety precautions, so there will always be the possibility that the experience will
suck, and this is something that you both need to be aware of and accept in order to mess with consent. This is not safe, but sometimes, dangerous things are fun. Other times, dangerous things will hurt you. You can't guarantee it's gonna be fun so you need to evaluate the risks and decide if it's worth it.
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celeste_hearts_lesbianceleste_hearts_transceleste_hearts_demisexual flori_ava_star:~cursor_blinking @star@amazonawaws.com
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @iro_miya @la As someone inexperienced with practical dubcon stuff, this reply is just extremely insightful, informative and helpful, thanks!!!

also, may I ask what drug this was? I have heard some pointers from other people but didn't quite like the side effects of those drugs
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LilaHexe @LilaHexe@fedi.lilahexe.top
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @la @star @iro_miya omg FRIES mentioned!!
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Miya Ironami 🌸 @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
11mo
non-con drugging, petplay @la @star @LilaHexe now I finally get the "not very FRIES of you" quote, this is a tremendous moment in my life
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LilaHexe @LilaHexe@fedi.lilahexe.top
11mo
FRIES @iro_miya @la @star lmaoooo yep

I also want to point out that FRIES isn't the only way to do consent, just that it's one I strongly recommend under
most (not all!!) circumstances

I have a draft of a text "Beyond FRIES" for my website too

btw, if you want a more memorable link,
fries.lilahexe.top redirects to the FRIES text
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